Because they (men) can't do it all...
They are doing their bit for their fellow men. They cannot be responsible for educating women too.
I say mais bien sûr! to that. But of course!
These men have a point.
But alas, the logistics are hard to pull off.
For me personally, here are my hang ups: (some might say, excuses!)
1. I am an introverted, quiet woman in real life. That means what I say is often not taken seriously, and I am labelled 'naïve' a lot, mostly by other women. So although I have no problem with that, any message I might have is often lost in the ether.
2. (And this probably explains Reason No.1): I tend to shy away from precisely the kind of women I am tasked with 'educating', i.e. nasty Blue Pill women. They were ousted from my herd the minute I noticed how toxic they were. The few interactions I have with them don't go well. We are effectively 'mutually exclusive'.
In a rather selfish manner, I prefer the company of other Red Pill women, or just women who are not in any way conversant with Manosphere mentality (wouldn't know The Mansophere if it came and sat on their heads) but who are naturally good women to hang out with. I have several of these women around me. The older ones among them are what I call my 'Proverbs 31' or 'Titus 2' women.
Selfish because I learn more from them than they do from me, so I am in fact a parasite to them. It is not exactly a symbiotic relationship I have with these women, but I am sure they don't mind. And I shall return the favour to someone else when I am in their position :-)
3. I also think that men make good relationship advisors, for both men and women. And this is why no matter how good a female role model a woman has, she also needs a good male one. This is why fathers/big brothers/uncles are gold dust, and this is also why I spend time perusing Manosphere blogs, despite the (sometimes) vitriol :-)
So I am not in any way saying 'you do your own dirty work, fellas!'
It's more, 'sure, I'll do my best, but you could do it better!' So please carry on your good work! Educate us women, and you will be repaid handsomely for your efforts.
One commenter here is doing just that.
Totally unsolicited by me (I promise!) he offered me this post as a free gift :-)
Bless you Bill, you are a good man for doing this.
This is what Bill sent me. I post it as it was sent to me. No 'doctoring' on my part.
Bill can provide more info as and when required.
On this post, I am a mere bystander. Any questions should be addressed to Bill.
usher / conference staff assistant. Let's call her Anne.
She looked to be about 30. Tall (6 feet 1 inches), slender, nice facial
features. A pretty young woman in a city full of pretty young women. By Las
Vegas / NYC / Hollywood norms, she was about 80th percentile. In another other
major metro area, probably 90th or better.
I wasn't looking to pick her up. But I wanted to test out my Game. Why not try
it on an attractive young woman in the Heart of Darkness?
I had Anne's phone number in 5 minutes. I saw her a few more times as the
day went by and chatted with her briefly each time. She gave me escalating IOIs
as time passed.
She called me the next morning to meet for coffee before the conference started.
We had lunch together, then made a date for a private dinner that evening. IOIs
Here's what transpired at dinner:
** I toned down Game. She escalated the IOIs. Rather than respond to her
interest, I started feeding her bits of the Red Pill. **
Anne, l'm not planning in getting into your pants. If I was, we'd be well on our
way right now.
** Her eyes lock on mine, she blushes, then looks down and squirms a bit in her
You and I both know that's true. So let's put that behind us, because it isn't
going to happen.
** She looks a bit puzzled, then smiles slightly. **
Anne, today you are 29. This year, you are going to be 30. That's a big
milestone. Your Twenties are about to be over. Where do you want to be in five
"Uh, I don't know. I haven't really thought about it."
On your birthday in 2017, you're going to be 35. Right?"
Let's talk about where you see yourself on that day, when you turn 35.
Do you want to still be hustling for day jobs, living day to day, worrying about
whether you can make your next rent payment? Pay the minimum on your credit
cards? Put gas in your car?
What one thing would make your life more stable? Give you something to plan
"A house. I want a house of my own."
You want a house. One that you own, even if it's with a mortgage. How do you get
from here to there?
** Blank look **
You need a steady job. One that has been paying well for a while, so that you've
been able to save up 5 or 10 percent of the purchase price for a down payment.
In almost any major city in America, a house starts at $100,000 or so. Often a
lot more. So you need to have a steady job long enough to be able to save up at
Can you do that in your present circumstance?
If you can save $400 a month, you can have that down payment in two years. If
you can only save $200 every month, you will need over four years. That means
you need to have that job in the next year.
** We go into a small sidebar on why she should switch to Sales or Marketing
from her present modeling gig. **
Anne, you say you want a house by the time you turn 35. There is another route.
Marry a man who has a good, steady job who can buy that house. Or significantly
contribute towards buying that house.
"How did we go from wanting a house to me getting married?!"
Because the odds of you getting that house all by yourself aren't nearly as good
as the odds if you are married. To a good man with a steady job. Earning as much
or more than you. Especially if he is earning more than you. Does that make
"Yes. I see your point."
Do you want children?
"Huh? I don't know. How did we get to talking about children?"
Because we are talking about where you want to be at 35.
You are at the peak of your fertility right now. In the next few years it will
start to decline, if it hasn't already done so. Lots of doctors will tell you
that, if you are going to have children, you need to be done by 35. Certainly
Fertility starts falling fast in your late thirties. Birth defects start rising
by 40. So you want to be done well before then. Age thirty-five is a good
If you decide you want children, you probably want more than one. Spacing them
out by two or three years helps a lot. If for no other reason than having more
than one in diapers at a time is exhausting.
So if you want to have two children and be done by 35, then you need to have
that first baby in the next two or three years. By the time you turn 33. That's
in 2015. By 2014 would be better. That's two years away.
You and I both know that children need a mother and a father. Parents who will
stick together and raise those children to adulthood.
You don't want to end up as some guy's baby-mama, right?
"Oh hell no!"
Marriage takes work. A married couple need two or three years together to settle
into the relationship, before adding the stress of children. So if you are going
to have that first baby by your birthday in 2015, you need to be married by your
birthday in 2013.
That's next year.
** Wide eyes. Swallow hard. **
That means you need to find your future husband and father of your children THIS
Think about what I just said. Did I miss something? Did I say anything that
isn't true? Is my logic, my reasoning, my chain of causality flawed?
So let's think about who that man is.
Think back to high school. Twelve years ago. The Year 2000. You are 17 years
old. You are blossoming into beautiful young womanhood.
** Smile. Blush. Far-away look. **
Who are the boys you remember being attracted to? Who did you have a little
tingle inside for?
Of course. Good looking, self confident, graceful, exciting to be around. Alpha
Did they treat you well? Did any of them offer you some sort of commitment? Or
comfort? Or support when you needed it?
Who do you remember from that last year of high school who would be suitable
husbands and fathers today? Steady jobs. No addictions to alcohol or drugs or
gambling? No baby-mama drama of their own?
"The quiet guys."
Yeah, the shy quiet guys. If the jocks were the Alphas, these guys are the
Betas. Solid, dependable, kind, supportive.
They were invisible to you. They didn't exist in your world. None of them gave
you the tingle deep inside like the Alpha males, did they?
Do you think those guys, a dozen years later, have steady jobs and stable
incomes? Like the kind you need to qualify for a mortgage?
"I guess so. Probably."
What about the guys you had the tingles for? Think most of them are holding
good, steady jobs? are ready to commit to lifelong marriage and raising
Or are they still bouncing from job to job, boozing it up, and chasing skirts?
Do they now have a baby-mama? Or two?
Which one would be there to help you buy that house?
"The quiet guy."
Which one would help you raise children? Be a father and not just a baby-daddy
to your future children?
"The quiet guy."
So why aren't you with one of those quiet guys?
** She goes into an explanation about how she just ended an 18 month
relationship with a dysfunctional Alpha. An alcoholic gambler who was all but
living in a casino. I stop her story after a few minutes. **
You wasted a year and a half of your young life. One-twentieth of your total
time on Earth. On this guy. Why?
"Well, at first he was fun. It was exciting. Then..."
At first, he made you feel special by doing fun, edgy stuff. Then, you felt
special because you thought you were special enough to fix him. Right?
"Yeah..." Eyes downcast.
You aren't that special.
** Her eyes snap open in shock and the beginnings of anger. **
Because no one is special enough to fix somebody like that. Not you. Not me. Not
Mother Theresa. No one.
Are you dating anyone right now?
"I'm on Match and Plenty of Fish."
Are you exclusively dating anyone?
"Well, almost. There is this one guy. He's smart, has a good job. He's a lawyer.
He has a house."
Do you have the tingles for him?
Do you think you could?
"Uh, I don't know."
Then try this: the next time you go on Match or PoF, look at each guy's photo
and profile. Find ONE good thing about him. It might be in his profile. It might
be in his photos.
Maybe his face isn't attractive, but he has a nice haircut. That should tell you
that he wasn't a winner in the genetic lottery (like you), but that he is trying
to make the best of what he has.
In the next week, look for something good in every man you meet, in person or
After a week of doing that, take another look at the guy you are seeing. I bet
you'll find several good things about him that you never noticed before. Some of
those things might even spark the tingle.
** And this ended the conversation. **
What does everyone think?
I am thinking...how lucky was Anne to have met Bill at that precise time in her life...
But what what about Bill's message to Anne?
Fair or foul?
Scary or sane?